They come up high on my arches, Which gives me great support. I really recommend this shop/product! This review is just to let you know what youre getting, not to disparage the author. Did not come with ANY brackets only the shelf , useless without them. I ordered two colors and LOVE THEM BOTH! I actually dread the thought of putting these back on. I was extremely impressed at how easy this thing is put together and how they separated the parts by step. The sound quality for music was pretty similar and the Jabras didnt drop phone calls the way the Bose did. I should note that the cellular calls were fine but the wifi calling is important to me. I always have a pair.