Just doesnt appear that one of the design goals or intended uses was rough and tumble play. I pulled this out the other day to use it for the first time and it was ripped. I can wear these all day now with no discomfort or heel pain. I tried the dongle with other headphones, same result. Also, the overall size doesnt fit PS4 controller chargers that have an upside down mounted cradle technique. In più io ho i classici calli da sala pesi, non vi dico che fastidio accarezzandolo, sentire tutti quei fili che fanno attrito ?? quasi come sfregare sul velcro. Perfection. It works, the buds fit and they charge. Son las terceras que compramos. It has more sound and bass, clear and sweet treble.