in 2000. Other than that pretty good buy So with Covid, I go almost nowhere. I had to contact a local handyman to come and hang it. Now Im back to leaving my hands on the steering wheel and not pulling over just to make a call. 5 and I bought a 10, the heel slips and that might bother me. I was going to send them back but kept them to wear at work. The straps on one of mine do seem a little "stretched" out already. Also I do yoga in my living room & most times I do my own cardio while wearing this. We took a 15 hour road trip, we don?t have any bars on the roof of the car and the clips were easy to use to secure it to the door frame.