We own an older home and because of that it is very outdated. They measure exactly 11. Not down below his Knees like all the basketball shorts. You can hear background noises and while the sound is muffled to allow you to focus, you can absolutely hear if someone is yelling for you (like your kids in the other room). They are not the cheapest product in the market,but they are one of the best. The Good:Speaker: The speaker sound quality seems pretty good. I know some people will wonder about the amount of noise the trainer makes. They fit my Sienna perfectly. So Ladies, I hope I?ve inspired you to order these as they are true to size. Most racks are vehicle specific, useless for what I needed.