not great. See the 2nd set of pictures to compare. Im so glad I did because today (the next day) they feel great. Nice slyders and at a good price. It?s a book of his jokes. I bought an xl and immediately could put it on the 2nd line of hooks. The earphones are slightly curved, not your usual round or flat type, so they fit into the ear nicely. My only criticism is that there isnt a mechanism to lock the arm down when not in use, which is only annoying because Im clumsy and bump into it when switching vinyl. This shoe seems a bit small but the Velcro attachment allows for bulk adjustment but not length adjustment. Anyway, with many folks still working virtually, this turns your gaming headset into an excellent work headset!