Cannot get the plastic piece to fit into Timberline towers. I almost exclusively wear leather Born shoes (oxfords/brogues), and no show socks are a necessity. 100 % recommend. This shoe is the one on the right. Phones themselves in good shape, no marks . I mean car companies go out of their way to highlight the fact that their car comes with a "Bose sound system". It has an interactive app that is designed to guide you through building the headphones. llego muy bien completo, super practico, mucha utilidad el poder colgar diario la ropa del dia But I cant say as I havent tried those. As far as earbuds go, these are good ones, and theyre surprisingly durable too, so thats a plus.