All I know is this one is a bear. One last note, these headphones, as with many others may block sound outside, but definitely amplify some interior sounds of joint movement and impact reverb when running. The sole on these Reefs is cushioned for support, which I like. I like that the design still showcases the beautiful design of the Apple charging case. If you buy used, make sure there are hi res photos of the item which you can review. I love that if someone calls my cell phone and my phone is connected to the speaker, its intelligent enough to know that its a call, and so does not create issues with the sound on the call. My almost 2 year old daughter doesn?t wear these much, but when she does, the look super cute. over all those two items need to be add atleast 2in to the undershirt and 4 in to the pants waistline. I had to toss the adjustable lower legs, and find some aluminum to cut to length and drill holes for the screws to hold them in place. First photo was taken as the screen protector was drying and it is normal to sit like that for a few minutes (I usually do about 5 mins.