However we did manage to tie them to the handles inside the vehicle. Very light weight just what I wanted I will be singing the praises of these panties to every woman I know. I slipped my feet in and they are flexible yet sturdy. Straps seem to hold up well. I used 22/4 wire. In my mind these towels are nothing special. Right out of the box, this product worked great! I keep one pair at cottage and have black and tan pair at home. This cant be called a gaming keybaord.