If you are travelling fast, that motion begins to gain momentum and before you know it, youll snap those bad boys right off. He purchased the black one. Highly likely it is close to 375. The only thing to be aware of is that these should be attached to studs in the wall and at 16" standard spacing, one stud from the garage door it just a bit too close. GAME CHANGER! As far as details, channel separation, tracking control, and overall value this one wins out of the 3 I?ve played with. does not hold up to the weight it said it would. When the 8s arrived they fit MUCH better. I highly recommend this cookbook if youre looking for crock pot recipes. My son is 8 and really like these.