I am returning and ordering a 9 and hopefully they will be about right. 5 womens in Keens and 6. They were comfortable but they diminished the bass too much by putting more distance from your ear to the driver. Other cons: Over the past 13 years, Ive used LG Tone Pro headphones which have a magnetic earbud holder to keep the wires and buds out the way when not in use. It knocks my refund almost in HALF Of the total amount paid. Sound not that great even for a living room karaoke session. These racks are solid and come with solid hardware for installation. This maximised the interior space too, because i can just set stuff on the floor w/o it rolling towards the point where im sitting. Device has a light that functions to let you know that its charging, or if the device is placed correctly on stand. Such a weird defect, but easy to fix.