But if you just want to put them in something or light travel they are fine enough. IM SO GLAD I DID. I got this for my mom. It frees up counter space by mounting it under the cabinet and looks sleek. This was a great deal for a teacher in need of multiple ear buds! It connects flawlessly with my 2018 MacBook Pro, but the only drawback is that the back/forward side buttons do not work as expected; if I click them they just behave as a normal left click, so I remove one star. We feel that this one is heavy-duty enough to last a long time, and was a great value! I will only be using them for surfboards and they appear to be more than adequate for that purpose. It allows me to choose an artist or an album in my playlist, but (so far) not individual songs. Quelques reviews lues plus tard je me lance.