I installed this on my BMW X1 today and used to it carry a kayak. But after her husband dies she returns to her childhood home and makes a life for herself, well away from the Ton and glitter of society. These didnt work for me. Pros: I like the quality of sound and equalizer on my phone. The ear loops feel great, too. The waist was big. Buying these as they are now is a big mistake. Makes a nice towel bar ! I would recommend ordering the next size up. " Its a shame though because it does have a great sound for the size/cost.