I?m using the last hooks. Im usually and 8 or 8. Second pair Ive purchased. I had gently brushed a door ?? while it was connected to my front pant loop on the right side of my zipper ,and that?s all she wrote. Die Farbe ist auch schön knallig ausgefallen. Sounds good sitting outside I contacted the manufacturer for warranty and received no response. These are great and loud. Should have listened to the reviews! Theyre breathable, theyre warm and very comfortable.