I consider these "good enough" for specific game genres that are lacking in split second decision making based on sound. When I was starting YouTube and doing Voice over stuff, I didnt really know where to go to to buy a cheap (best bang for the buck) mic so I just bought what pro YouTubers would say. 5 and still cant fit my foot in. In fact it even came with one of those glass screen protectors on it. It was not as bulky as I thought it was going for and is almost a perfect fit for the buds and wire. I wanted a dish with lid, safe for hob and oven, to make casseroles for one (me! Rebooting the computer works as well, just not when youre in the middle of things. He plays at least two hours of tennis 5 days a week, but these are not well made shoes. lights burn out in front of me due to rain leaking inside ! Overall great quality headphones:Pros:App to adjust bass/treble - great for most audiophiles but I havent used it (some have stated that the app isnt that good).