The black patent leather is as thick as a garbage bag. Amazing customer service :) They fit nice, as usual, but I have had issues with this shoe. Bumping up the review for one star. Bought some last year and this year 2 more pairs. I love that these crisscross! They look so good with a dress and jeans! Its ok, but used to having voice commands and better sound quality. If you ARE an audiophile, then shame on you for looking at a $15 pair of earbuds to begin with. Shoes are very good, ight weight and perfect fit.