I sent them back the next day. My take. Will actually make my exercise walks more effective(build muscle) and the fact they are waterproof and with deep grooves in treads makes them ideal winter and off road footwear. They are also the most comfortable of all these headphones alongside the Yamaha HPH-200s. The table rattles like crazy when driving, I may try something to insulate it soon. On the day I bought it, I bought many outside lights and some waterproof type plugs and they were kind of a try it and pray it works. I have also owned (in no particular order) Beyerdynamic T5, Denon 5000, Beyerdynamic 990, Sennheiser 595, AKG K701, Sony XB700, Dre Beats Pro (Monster version and 2013), Koss Portapro, Skullcandy Aviators, Koss HVX/LC, Sony MDR-V900HD, Woodees 100V, Audio Technica ATH-M50, Shure SRH940, and assorted older Koss, Sony, etc. The tool holders along the side are designed to hold bike tools which is nice. But the bike I bought didnt have the usual available spot to install a standard kickstand and the shop owner said you cant install a kickstand on these bikes. Ive not abused them, worn them outside very much other than for a minute at most but wasnt expecting this to happen, especially given the price.