By this time, I couldn?t return them. i only use logitech stuff so its only using 1 kind of software. These go to my belly button. Treble extends nicely with just the right amount of crispness to sound airy but not too bright or piercing. It isn?t the deepest of lows, but at 32Hz it?s plenty deep enough to enjoy movies and music. When I turn Bluetooth off (by turning volume rocker down) it?s unconnects from my phone which is a pain. 7 / 9. They then decided that I should just send it back. 5" between bikes, you can carry two of nearly any bike, with the exception of some particularly heavy e-bikes. I had a pair like these back in the 90s and adore the style.