I purchased these for him, and he has been using them for walking around the house and for walking outdoors. Not very happy with my purchase. around the house and there it was not too be missed. Little bit too much treble but theyre otherwise solid. Buy small. I love the red LED light that comes on on the Microphone when it is muted! I try to contact the store directly but got no answer. I usually had to switch to my Sennheiser CX300 II Precision to listen to music when I want the topmost fidelity. 23,000/- and more (Sony WH1000XM3, Bose QC 3. The other Problem I found is that I cant talk to my friends though the wire and listen to my music via bluetooth at the same time as I once did.