But they look nice and he says they are comfortable. It is people like Steve Jobs who change the world and make our lives so much better. I am returning but only because of my feet and ankles. They do need quite a bit of breaking in but a hairdryer, some fluffy socks and some patience softens them up. We have family and friends visiting us in Florida all the time so we use the rack a lot. It could go anywhere. These are an 8 and fit perfectly. Loading is pretty easy it your car is smaller like our BMW X1. Overall impressed. The fit is as expected ( I normally wear a 12 and the 12s in these fit well), the foot bed and arch support are pretty much standard compared to my other shoes.