I decided to return them so I could buy yet another of my tried and true Adidas slip ons. One final note; I bought these from a local retailer, not Amazon. To make a comparison. In short, I think these earbuds are good, they are comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, the touch controls take a little getting used to, but work well once you have the hang of it. You can guess given ambient noise but youll never know! I would bother with flashy name cross bars. I?m not an advocate of the overall design. Wish it was so I could put it there. I wear Hokas. I love the battery life and the little joystick is super easy to use.