I order size 10. I read many complaints about almost all of the slippers offered online. Honestly, this is nothing like a kit Id put together myself based on USCG suggestions. Love it where the shelf allow them to put their helmets and other items. She loves them so much. So - if youre looking for mid-end headphones at a low-ish price point - these do seem a great choice. Changing of pads is recommended if you are still willing to and live with these headphones (Brainwavz has perforated Ear Pads for AudioTechnica Ovals, these will be a good replacement). true to size I ordered a half size larger and didn?t need to. I opened up youtube to make sure it worked, and I was greeted by what you might describe as tinny, shallow sound. Eventually the mrs gave in and tried these black ones.