I teach and run around a large campus, harbor. For me, if I?m sweating, the stay in better. Where the one on the cable would sit next to my keyboard, and was a flick of the thumb for that mechanical mute (never trust software mutes) and I can om nom cookies with maximal efficiency while maintaining gameplay integrity and comms. They came wrapped in a plastic zip lock bag. It was the same size as my minitrailor, high enough and looked strong enough. I love this brand, but this shoe sucks! Sometimes I do need to rest the edge of my keyboard on part of the mouse pad, but its not very thick so I dont even notice its on there during use. The new ones look so much better on him now. Returning was exceptionally easy and I was refunded within a day of returning. I like that they are wireless too.