Also they?re too small length wise, and I?m between an 8 and 8 1/2. Great fit and soft comfortable sole. Very pleased as they are very well made and very comfortable. I was looking for a court shoe to play pickleball. Kind of a minky-brown? Basically the color you see on the product description page is what you get. Idiotic reviews here. This is comfy and is cute with pjs or even a tank top and jeans. Phone reboots like crazy. Way better than our expectations. Its not a new product, it has been refurbished, and/or it is a counterfeit.