either way it served its purpose for me and wasnt too expensive which is why I gave it 3stars When I do not use it, I simply pull it back 90 degrees and it rests along the headset itself. That is at about half to 3/4 volume. So i got the second to largest size 5XX. Good buy for the money I even kicked the bike up into a position in which the tires were over the top of each other, completely sideways, all while gripping the bike by its seat post. Room feels like a theater. I would rate this a zero if I could. $9 for a 3-pack) to get the clean sound quality I?m used to. Elegant solution for securing bikes with no moving parts.