thing you do need to understand is that it is manmade chemicals that make modern soap bubble. rugged design and easy to slip on and off The second game was phenomenal, what the hell did they do to this game? I?ve been gaming my whole life and pretty much have never stopped playing a game because it was so terrible. Im a pretty solid size 9 and a 9 in the Karin works perfectly. Mainly I recommend them as a second pair in a heartbeat but not for a primary pair for people who want high quality music and don?t need long listening times. Light jazz and other genres that arent as bass dependent sound fine. Audio/mic was great for virtual meetings. I was hesitant about the fabric but I like it. This seems to be working fine. I think this has to do with how you assemble - maybe if I tighten some screws and loosen others to even it out more it would be smoother (it might even be that one of the support bars or drawers is slightly bent) but even with this it is a great product.